The Big P

WTF is up around here?

10:19 PM, February 25, 2008 .. 19 comments .. Link
First of all...what the fuck is happening here? The stupid site is down almost as much as it's up for crying out loud. And who do we tell? As far as I know, no one.

Secondly, a guy at work sent me this article today. I couldn't stop laughing at the sheer stupidity of some people.

Suicidal Pets Get Anti-Depressants

Pets at risk of self-harm are increasingly being prescribed anti-depressants because they cannot discuss problems in their lives with others, a leading veterinarian says.

Zoo and wildlife medicine specialist with the UK’s Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons, Romain Pizzi, told the Telegraph that more pets were being prescribed Prozac.

Tropical birds such as parrots seemed to have been the most affected by depression, Mr Pizzi told the newspaper.

But Mr Pizzi said anti-depressants were only used in the most extreme of cases.

“Firstly, we will change the environment of the animal and make sure it has more stimulation and toys,” Mr Pizzi told the newspaper.

"When we have ruled out underlying medical problems, we try to break the cycle by using Prozac… (which) is given to the parrots in liquid form.

"It doesn't cure all animals, but around two-thirds respond to the treatment. In a small number of cases things will go well until we wean them off Prozac and the problems return."

Mr Pizzi said the severity of some pet’s depression often put their lives at risk.

"Typically if people go out to work all day their parrot will get very bored and frustrated and eventually develop depression,” he said.

“Symptoms often include plucking out their feathers or self-harming, which is obviously very dangerous.

“When cockatoos in particular are depressed they can start to self-mutilate and peck their own legs to the bone."

Some of the world’s largest pharmaceutical companies have also recognised the need for anti-depressants for animals.

Last year, Eli Lilly released a chewable anti-depressant for dogs onto the US market.

The manufacturers even gave the “Reconcile” drug a beef flavour.

Pfizer has also created a diet drug for dogs, as well as motion-sickness medicine for all pets.


Are you fucking serious? Prozac for parrots? Let me give you a clue. The parrot is depressed because you have him trapped in a little cage. He's supposed to be out swooping around the forest having sex with other parrots. You have him in wire cage with a sheet over him so he can't see shit.

I don't even spend money for anti-depressants for humans. Why would I spend it for pets?
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11:01 PM, February 25, 2008 .. Posted by DeeJay
Why does this not surprise me? People can be such goonybirds!



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11:09 PM, February 25, 2008 .. Posted by libertine
I think Keith has essentially abandoned the site.

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11:22 PM, February 25, 2008 .. Posted by LauriesAsylum
Yeah, what happened to Keith??

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11:23 PM, February 25, 2008 .. Posted by thebigp
Deej - seriously...parrot prozac? It's beyond ridiculous.

Libertine - I think you're right. He's long gone. But the least he could do is leave someone the keys, ya know?

Laurie - I have no idea

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11:43 PM, February 25, 2008 .. Posted by sarai
I've seen a very disturbed parrot at the shelter once, not a pretty sight, they take as much time and attention as a two/three year old child, and why do people get them? I know I spend a lot of time with my horses but if I can't spend that time they don't go psycho.

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11:55 PM, February 25, 2008 .. Posted by texican
I've been wondering about the weekly downtime, myself. What to do...

As for the animal drugs, I'm with you...WTF? I have cats...how the hell would I know if they needed anti-depression meds? Would they sleep all day? Not come when I call them? Should I wait to see if I catch one with its head in the oven? Should I even tell them the oven is electric?

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08:40 AM, February 26, 2008 .. Posted by kingofankh
I joined Vox, there's quite a few ex-efx'ers there and since I joined last September it hasn't had any downtime.

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02:43 PM, February 26, 2008 .. Posted by littleMissConfused
I am laughing so hard at this I have tears in my eyes and can't see the key board!

Tex, don't tell the cats the oven is electric...it might depress them even more!

My dogs will get depressed as winter drags on, but a quick game of fetch gets them back to happy...no need for drugs.

I had a chicken that pulled all of her feathers out and would run thru the yard naked. She looked just like a chicken that should be cooked except she still had her head with feathers on it. All that time I thought she had fleas...who know she was depressed! I guess I should have given her Prozac instead of cooking her!

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02:46 PM, February 26, 2008 .. Posted by texican
I think the chicken was simply a nudist who was expressing her individuality. But we'll never know now, will we? ;p

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03:14 PM, February 26, 2008 .. Posted by littleMissConfused
She was very tasty!

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05:23 PM, February 26, 2008 .. Posted by sarai
poor chickchick, she probably just wanted to get broody(nest) they pluck their chests/bellys so more heat gets to the eggs.

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05:23 PM, February 26, 2008 .. Posted by sladewilson
Actually Keith is working, I believe, but he hasn't abandoned the site.

Martin has been having server issues and it attempting to move the site over to a more stable enviroment and new servers.

At least that's the understanding I have. I think they have more traffic than they anticipated. It's a small thing - just bares patience...

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07:07 PM, February 26, 2008 .. Posted by libertine
A few timely updates in the community leaders blog about what's going on would be a good thing, rather than leaving us all to twist in the wind and wonder what's going on.

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10:15 PM, February 26, 2008 .. Posted by DeeJay
Argh!!!! It's been up and down all night again!

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10:22 PM, February 26, 2008 .. Posted by thebigp
I read that same server story, but that wasn't a recent explanation, it's from back in early January. If it was just about being moved, I would think that 6 weeks would have been ample time.

My feeling is that if the site goes down and no one is in charge, how does it ever get fixed or back up? I TOTALLY understand that Keith has to work and I don't fault him for that at all. There should just be a plan of succession so if Keith isn't available, someone else can administer the site. That's just basic technology tactics.

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02:07 PM, February 27, 2008 .. Posted by littleMissConfused
Your the computer guy....I vote you to be in charge! I have no clue about these things....all I know how to do is bitch about them when they don't work!

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08:54 PM, February 28, 2008 .. Posted by thebigp
I'm a network and server guy, like Martin, not a code monkey like Keith.

I have looked into the possibility of hosting on a dedicated machine, but I could never afford the bandwidth costs.

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04:28 PM, March 2, 2008 .. Posted by Anonymous
Prozac produces a feeling of such terror and agitation in some people, that up to 200,000 have killed themselves, and in some cases, also their loved ones, since its release.

It's just unbearable to think of these animals suffering such feelings.

ellen

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04:40 PM, March 2, 2008 .. Posted by thebigp
I'm not a fan of pharmas for depression especially since in the UK they have found that they are only marginally helpful in extreme cases of depression.

Check it out:
http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...cnn-topics

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